Oct 21 2006, 17:31
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Hello,
I was wondering if it is possible to heat acetone (with salvorin dissolved) to make it evaporate. I saw somewhere that heating it could possibly destroy salvorin in solution. Is it true ? Thank You |
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Oct 21 2006, 17:37
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why, do you want to vaporate it, it will do it at roomtemperature.
If you want it faster, let some sunlight on it.But you can heat aceton to 70-80 celsius, then it will be gone faster.I don't know if the salvinorin will be destroyed, i think partly. |
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Oct 21 2006, 18:12
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I wanna heat it up because I want to speed up the evaporation process. I don't let it on sunlight because UV light destroy salvorin in solution. Can someone give me a clear answer on if yes or no it destroy somes ?
P.S. Acetone boils at 56 celcius so I won't heat it up to more than 60 celcius. Thank You |
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Oct 21 2006, 18:56
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Salvianaut Beiträge: 538 Mitglied seit: 3.Jul 2004 |
I always make my Salvia-Extracts with a "soxhlet-extraktor"(german), the acetone which extracts the salvia is very hot(>40°C I think), and my extracts are always very good, so i don't think that a lot of Salvinorn A will be destroyed.
Sorry for my bad english.. greetings Ramses |
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Oct 21 2006, 18:56
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Salvia Fan Beiträge: 322 Mitglied seit: 1.Jun 2006 Aus: Schweiz - Baselland |
QUOTE(Noxx @ Oct 21 2006, 17:12) I wanna heat it up because I want to speed up the evaporation process. I don't let it on sunlight because UV light destroy salvorin in solution. Can someone give me a clear answer on if yes or no it destroy somes ? P.S. Acetone boils at 56 celcius so I won't heat it up to more than 60 celcius. Thank You I suppose it wont do any harm. U could fill your sink with hot water and put the bowl with the aceton in it, that should work. Make sure you don't heat it untill it boils, some salvinorin may get lost in that case (because it vaporizes together with the aceton). Der Beitrag wurde bearbeitet von Remus am Oct 21 2006, 18:59 Uhr. -------------------- |
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Oct 21 2006, 19:43
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Thanks for all the answers ! No, I won't make it boil but I'll put it around 40-50 celcius.
My goal is to get the acetone back by condensing. But it never works... I have 2 erlenmeyers and tubing. Someone have ideas ? Thanks |
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Oct 21 2006, 22:36
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QUOTE(Noxx @ Oct 21 2006, 18:43) Thanks for all the answers ! No, I won't make it boil but I'll put it around 40-50 celcius. My goal is to get the acetone back by condensing. But it never works... I have 2 erlenmeyers and tubing. Someone have ideas ? Thanks Well if you want to get the acetone back, i think you will need a distillation bridge. Otherwise too much water (humidity) gets mixed in. http://www.chemistryworld.de/preise/labor/jpg/claisen.jpg Der Beitrag wurde bearbeitet von rob-n am Oct 21 2006, 22:37 Uhr. |
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Oct 22 2006, 13:52
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Salvianaut Beiträge: 538 Mitglied seit: 3.Jul 2004 |
I also get back the acetone by condensing, like rob-n said. it is very easy and works good, but you should use "boil stones".
greetings Ramses |
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Oct 22 2006, 16:52
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Mr. Unbequem / Schlechter Umgang Beiträge: 996 Mitglied seit: 17.Oct 2005 |
Careful with the hot acetone. It´s highly flammable at room temperature, if you guys are not careful enough you gonna smell like KFC.
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Oct 22 2006, 21:52
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Ok ! Ramses, are you using aquarium air stones ? (bublers). I already have a condenser at home so I will try it. The problem is, the tube to carry the air to the air stone reacts with acetone and become very very soft.
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Oct 22 2006, 23:53
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Salvianaut Beiträge: 538 Mitglied seit: 3.Jul 2004 |
I dont mean a stone to make the acetone boil faster at room temperature, but a stone to make it boil faster at 50-60°C, "Siedesteinchen" in german. If you dont you them, the acetone would splash in the soxhlet-extractor and its had to make a good extract.
greetings Ramses |
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Oct 23 2006, 01:07
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Grünschnabel Beiträge: 8 Mitglied seit: 21.Oct 2006 Alter: 39 |
But If the acetone boils, you don't loose any salvorin ?
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Oct 23 2006, 06:28
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Mr. Unbequem / Schlechter Umgang Beiträge: 996 Mitglied seit: 17.Oct 2005 |
No, acetone boils at ~ 56° C. If you smoke your salvia trough a bong, you heat the leaf material up to 400° C.
And it still works, doesn´t it? I do not think, you will loose any salvinorin, it is simply not hot enough. -------------------- 12 einfache Tips für Kratom-Anfänger Dieser Post fällt unter "Freie Meinungsäußerung" und erhebt keinerlei Anspruch auf Richtigkeit, Übereinstimmung mit geltendem Recht oder sonstige Relevanz. Am besten ist es für den Leser, eine jede meiner Aussagen als Lüge zu interpretieren. QUOTE <sia> BKA! BKA! BKA! |
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Oct 23 2006, 13:12
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Grünschnabel Beiträge: 8 Mitglied seit: 21.Oct 2006 Alter: 39 |
It's what I taught too :-)
Thanks |
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Oct 23 2006, 18:24
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Salvia Kenner Beiträge: 117 Mitglied seit: 15.Jan 2006 Alter: 117 |
QUOTE(Provo @ Oct 23 2006, 05:28) I do not think, you will loose any salvinorin, it is simply not hot enough. I think so too. I´m heating my aceton-extract until it boils (in a water bath). But _be careful_! It´s very dangerous. You shouldn´t have to much of it in there, and you shouldn´t have any fire near the place, you´re working at. |
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